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Two Guys and a Bible-04.24.2012

by Michael J Loomis on April 26, 2012

Two Guys and a Bible with William Bell and Don K. Preston. Tuesday nights at 4PM Pacific/7PM Eastern.

Two Guys and A Bible

Two Guys and A Bible

April 24, 2011

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Doug Wilkinson April 27, 2012 at 4:01 am

I have a couple of questions and then some thoughts on your program tonight:

1) In the first Youtube video you did on this the other day you quoted Ezekiel 38 describing the good guys who were being attacked. In that section it says that they were already living in safety and prosperity after having been long ago regathered. If the regathering wasn’t completed until 70AD, how do you have people being invaded who haven’t been regathered yet?

2) In Daniel 8:17 you have one of the uses “the time of the end”. In v.20 this is defined as the time of Media and Persia, and later it includes the fight between them and Greece (no mention of Rome). The temple is desecrated but not destroyed. The temple is restored to function after 2,300 evenings and mornings. Again, the temple is not destroyed. How do you explain a “time of the end” associated with the conflict between the Persians and Greeks, long before Rome comes on the scene?

Doug Wilkinson April 27, 2012 at 4:04 am

I wrote an article addressing the issue of the regathering as the context of the Gog/Magog war here:

http://premillpreterism.ning.com/forum/topics/the-context-of-the-gog-and-magog-war

I will try to directly address your point about the “last days” language in the next few days.

Doug Wilkinson April 27, 2012 at 4:06 am

Different Dispensatinalists take Gog/Magog differently. Some of them have it as at the beginning or preceding the Tribulation. Some of them have it at the end of the Millennium. Some of them have Ezekiel and Revelation talking about two different battles. It’s a mess. The Joel Rosenberg camp sees it as preceding the 70th Week so that it is the next thing to happen. The Ron Wallace camp (based loosely off of Robert Thieme Jr., Hal Lindsay’s mentor) sees two Gog/Magog wars.

Also, keep in mind that for the Classical Dispensationalists (Chafer, Thieme, etc.) it’s not Israel’s last days. That’s importing the idea of “the last days of what” from Full Preterism into Dispensationalism. Chafer would say that there Israel and the Church NEVER merge, so that they never have a last day.

Michael J Loomis April 27, 2012 at 10:39 am

Doug…If you wouldn’t mind sending me an email Tuesday morning I would be more than happy to ask Don and William to address these questions.

michael@ad70.net

Doug Wilkinson April 30, 2012 at 5:32 pm

If you have time before the show I’d appreciate it if you review what I wrote here:

http://premillpreterism.ning.com/forum/topics/ezekiel-38-and-the-last-days-of-israel

It goes to some of the points you were making last week as well as Don’s Morning Musing posts.

Doug

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