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The Antithesis Hour with Phil Naessens-01.26.2011

by Michael J Loomis on January 27, 2011

The Antithesis Hour with Phil Naessens and Michael J Loomis. This week we discussed accountability in Church leadership, Joel Osteen, Skip Heitzig, word of faith, Phoenix Preacher and a handful of other random topics.

January 26, 2011

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{ 6 comments… read them below or add one }

MoGrace2u January 27, 2011 at 8:54 pm

Gee Phil, do you really want us to believe that the hand-picked inspired apostles of Christ were deceived/misled by the Holy Spirit just so we would keep on striving to live holy lives all these years?

Good grief,

flashtennis January 28, 2011 at 7:01 am

Hi Robin,

Please stop putting words in my mouth. They don’t taste very well. I never said nor implied the apostles were “deceived” about anything in regards to what Christ taught them. That would mean that I’m claiming Jesus lied….that’s your play not mine.

Perhaps you should give the program another listen and then come back and apologize to me for misrepresenting what I said on the program.


Phil Naessens

MoGrace2u January 31, 2011 at 9:30 pm

I can appreciate you didn’t like how I portrayed what the gist of your words were Phil, but if anyone wants to hear it themselves it is at the 4:24 marker near the end of the podcast. I would transcribe it, but it is just as easy to play it again. You were discussing mello and the reason why Jesus kept the last days a mystery, lest no one would have continued to live holy lives. And therefore He meant for the apostles to believe it was about to come…when it really wasn’t it.


flashtennis February 1, 2011 at 4:26 am


ROE has it right here on what I meant…..Mark seems to back that up;

Mar 13:32 “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Jesus couldn’t of kept something He didn’t know a “mystery” and if you spend time reading the parables at the end of the chapter you’ll notice Jesus was telling them to “stay awake” because NO ONE knows when the Master of the house was going to return. IOW he was encouraging them to live Godly lives Robin. That’s where I was coming from…..

BTW: It’s been nearly 2 years and I’m dying to know how you knew John Calvin didn’t repent before he died like you claimed over at Death is Defeated……

Thanks Robin!

God Bless,


Michael J Loomis February 1, 2011 at 7:47 am

Come on Rivers…It’s not a lack of consideration. These guys are busy first off. Secondly, I don’t even know that most of them are even aware of these comments.

That and you’ve been disagreeing with these guys since when? The 1990’s?

Your position has been responded to and you don’t agree. You get it. They get it. We all get it.

Then again…Maybe they are just tired of doing the same song and dance with you over and over again. I on the other hand have a few moves left in my bag of tricks. So feel free to keep disagreeing agreeably. Keep bringing the text to the table. But please stop with the innuendos. They are getting old and they add nothing to your arguments.

Phil on the other hand is a persistent career blogger…8-) He loves the abuse!!!

MoGrace2u February 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm

Nice deflection Phil. We are talking about your words right here, and you bring up a post I answered on the same site, how many times now? Whether or not Calvin repented, we certainly don’t have a record of it. In fact the records show that he thought he was on solid ground.

Now back to your light treatment that Jesus’ intent was to keep the apostles in the dark…as a means of sanctification no less.


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