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New Covenant Eyes Radio – 09.11.2011

by Michael J Loomis on September 14, 2011

New Covenant Eyes Church

New Covenant Eyes Church

New Covenant Eyes Radio. With Alan Bondar and Bob Lucas. Tonight they interviewed Dr. John Noe on the gifts of the Spirit.

How are we to understand their cessation or continuance?

September 11, 2011 –

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manny f September 15, 2011 at 11:33 pm

I looked into 7 scholars on 1Corn 13:8 not one of them gave the the definition John Noe did. From-Fee,Thiselton Barrett,Hodge,Calvin,Robertson,Barnett, not one wrote anything about hyperbolic language. All except Calvin says all will cease (Calvin didnt have much to add) when perfection comes eschatologically speaking when christ came in Ad70.

Lyn March 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm

I believe that the gifts have not ceased either. I believe apostles were never the healers in Jesus day. They were praying for the sick in ‘Jesus name ‘and it was he who was the healer, not man. If the Christian church is the everlasting Kingdom then we need all the gifts more than ever. If the New Covenant is no different to the Old Covenant, as in, they didn’t have the power of the Holy Spirit then what use is it?? If the canon is complete then we need the gift of prophecy in our day. We know that if the prophecy does not come to pass that that person was a false prophet. We are told to test all things and have discernment!!!! The Holy Spirit leads us into All Truth IF we seek Truth. The gift of tongues can be abused. The Youngs Literal Translation bible is the best translation about tongues that i have seen so far. 1 Corinthians ch. 13 and 14. Its speaks of tongues as being the spirit speaking through you and not from our own minds or soul. It is a secret language between us and God. If we speak in public there has to be an interpretation either by the speaker of tongues or someone else who has the gift of interpretation. Wisdom is the key here. When i got saved and wanted to thank God for my salvation I had such an amazing conversion and literally felt the Holy Spirit come into my body that it overwhelmed me and i didn’t have the words to express how I felt. When i opened my mouth to speak I was speaking in a language I had never learnt and it was the most beautiful language i have ever heard. I had never heard of tongues before that time. Praise God. If the gifts of healing are not for today then what is the use of even praying for someone when they are sick. It doesn’t make any sense at all.

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