The Story of Covenant Creation – Tim Martin. From the 2009 Covenant Creation Conference.
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2009 Covenant Creation Conference-Tim Martin-Lecture 1
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Thus far, I can say, along with the final slide in the presentation, I may not agree with everything [in the book], but it makes a lot of good points. I’m totally on board with the covenantal aspect of creation. But I’m having trouble delineating between the “allegory” of Genesis and the rest of the historical books of the OT.
I hope science and history are not bad words to the preterist, for their evidences have proven the existence of historical people, places, things, and ideas mentioned in the Bible. First the natural, then the spiritual.
I take the Biblical accounts of historical events (Jesus did: “In the beginning, He made them male and female…”) as types and shadows of spiritual realities, the seen and unseen worlds, the temporary and the permanent. But maybe we are looking at the same thing from slightly different perspectives. Thanks for provoking, in love, this discussion.(Hebrews 10:24)
I don’t think anyone from the covenant creation camp ever said that it was allegory. Genesis 1-3 is a historical account that did take place approximately 6500 years ago. Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel were real people that lived at a real point in time. The question is…What is it that is being described in the early chapters of Genesis. Is it an account of cosmological creation? Is this how the original audience that lived thousands of years ago would have understood this?
I think the problem is that we are reading our modern day understanding of science and cosmology back into the text.
Regarding Jesus saying, “In the beginning, He made them male and female…” consider this. In Adam, “they were made male and female.” Then the apostle Paul says in contrast, “In Christ(the last adam) they are neither male nor female.”
Also consider Luke 20:34-37 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
This is language that delineates the old covenant(death) vs. the new covenant(life).
Hope that makes sense.