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2010 Covenant Creation Conference-Lecture 01-Tim Martin

by Michael J Loomis on August 8, 2010

August 7, 2010 – 9:00 AM: Tim Martin – Finding the Lost World of Genesis One

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Ken Singleton November 25, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Whilst listening to this I was following along in the ESV and when you came to speak about the Hosea 6:7 passage I read this in the commentary to that verse in the ESV:

Hos. 6:7 But like Adam they transgressed the covenant. “Covenant” appears four other times in Hosea (2:18; 8:1; 10:4; 12:1). Twice it refers to the transgressing of covenant (6:7; 8:1). The following phrase, there they dealt faithlessly with me, along with 8:1 (“they have transgressed my covenant and rebelled against my law”) makes it virtually certain that the “covenant” in view is the Mosaic covenant. In addition, the kinds of sins and curses pronounced in the Sinai covenant dovetail precisely with the warnings of the prophet: the end of agricultural prosperity, military disaster, foreign exile, the demise of their offspring, and a return to slavery in Egypt. In sum, the crisis in Israel was Israel’s failure to keep covenant. The hard issue is: to whom or to what does “Adam” refer? Many commentators suggest a geographical locality. The difficulty is that there is no record of covenant breaking at a place called Adam (Josh. 3:16), and it requires a questionable taking of the preposition “like” (Hb. ke-) to mean “at” or “in.” “There” represents the act wherein Israel was unfaithful to the covenant (cf. Hos. 5:7; 6:10). “Mankind” is another suggestion for “Adam,” but that would be a vague statement with no known event indicated, and therefore it would not clarify the sentence. It is best to understand “Adam” as the name of the first man; thus Israel is like Adam, who forgot his covenant obligation to love the Lord, breaking the covenant God made with him (Gen. 2:16–17; 3:17). This also implies that there was a “covenant” relationship between God and Adam, the terms of which were defined in God’s words to Adam, though the actual word “covenant” is not used in Genesis 1–3.

Interesting!

Ken Singleton November 26, 2010 at 11:26 am

Hi ROE,

Yes, I agree with your conclusion that Israel and Adam did not transgress the same covenant.

What I found interesting was how a futurist (the commentator in the ESV who I was quoting) felt that Hosea 6:7 “implied” that Adam also transgressed a covenant “in the Garden.” In other words the commentator, even though a futurist, seems to be supporting the view of CC by saying that Adam was under a covenant in the Garden, that he transgressed that covenant and now the Israelites have transgressed their covenant just like Adam transgressed his covenant.

Personally, I think Hos 6:7 could read like this: “Just as Adam transgressed the Law in the Garden, so the Israelites have transgressed my covenant.” In other words the likeness in Hosea has to do with the “transgression”, and in Job the likeness was in the “hiding”. The absence of the word “covenant” in the Genesis account is, to me, significant. However, I could be wrong 🙂

Regards, Ken

Ken Singleton November 27, 2010 at 1:20 am

Hi ROE,

Just to clarify. By “the Law” that Adam transgressed I was meaning the one in the Garden not to eat of the tree. I probably should call it the “commandment” instead. So that last paragraph should be:

“Personally, I think Hos 6:7 could read like this: “Just as Adam transgressed the commandment in the Garden, so the Israelites have transgressed my covenant.” In other words the likeness in Hosea has to do with the “transgression”, and in Job the likeness was in the “hiding”.

Apologies for the confusion.

Ken 🙂

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